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December 2002 Minutes

AB 312 No Child Left Behind Liaison Team Minutes.


California Department of Education
1430 N Street, Room 1801
Sacramento, California

Wednesday, December 4, 2002

Members Present

Charles Weis, Chair
Raeneen Belisle
Judy Elliott
Assemblywoman Goldberg
Lynette P. Henley
Barbara H. Lockert
Cecelia Mansfield
Robert Manwaring
Robert Nichols
Richard Whitmore

Alternates Present

Richard Bray (for Alice Petrossian)
Cathleen Cox (for Senator McPherson)
James Wilson (for Senator Vasconcellos)
Lee Angela Reid (for Senator McPherson)
Steve Henderson (for Jai Sookprasert)

Principal Staff to the Liaison Team

Camille Maben, Senior Policy Advisor to Superintendent Delaine Eastin

Call to Order

Chair Weis called the meeting to order at approximately 9:40 a.m. after it was determined that a quorum was present. New members and alternates were sworn-in by Leslie Fausset, Chief Deputy Superintendent.

Approval of Minutes

A motion to approve the November 15, 2002 meeting minutes was made by Belisle, seconded, and carried (14-0-0).


Chair Weis directed the Team's attention to Item #5 of the Agenda and introduced Bill Padia who, with members of his staff, provided an overview of Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP). Bill Padia introduced Rachel Perry who provided a detailed overview on the Standards and Assessments provisions in NCLB. Members of Bill Padia's staff then provided information about issues related to AYP that had been under discussion by the SBE.

Issue 1.

Richard Fattig of CDE provided information about the incongruities in California's current accountability system and NCLB requirements.

Issue 2.

Bill Padia introduced Bob Bernstein of CDE who discussed the issue of using student matriculation patterns to determine how well students are performing.

Issue 3.

Eric Crane was introduced and he discussed the Alternative Accountability System (ASAM) within the context of California's Public Schools Accountability Act (PSAA).

Issue 4.

Bob Bernstein provided information about the definition of mobility and the mobility rules under NCLB.


Chair Weis called for a ten-minute break at 10:40 a.m.


Chair Weis reconvened the Team at approximately 10:50 a.m.

Issue 5.

Eric Crane provided information about the inclusion of subgroups in AYP.

Issue 6.

Rachel Perry provided information about the High School Graduation Rate requirement.

Issue 7.

Rachel Perry described the 95 percent participation requirement for students who take state assessments.

Issue 8.

Eric Crane presented information about minimum sub-group size and discussed the relationship between subgroups making gains and incorrectly identifying schools for awards.

Issue 9.

Rachel Perry provided information about district accountability requirements and consequences including student and school "roll-ups" into the API.


Chair Weis adjourned the Team for lunch at 11:45 a.m.


Chair Weis reconvened the Team at approximately 12:45 p.m.

Issue 10.

Richard Fattig presented information about a definition for proficient with the concepts of scaffolding and vectoring-back.

Issue 11.

Bill Padia presented information about AYP and four options that are under consideration by the SBE. Members discussed the various simulations.

Public Comment

Chair Weis recognized three members of the public for comment: Bill Chavez, representing urban school districts (letter and handout provided); Gabe Jenkins of the Education Trust West; and Doug McRae, an education measurement specialist speaking on his own behalf.

Continuation of Discussion

Members discussed the various options for AYP and it was moved (Bray), and then later withdrawn, to support option #4 as the Team's first preference. Instead of voting on an option, members decided to wait on making a recommendation until information was obtained from the other "index states" (those states that have an accountability system in place that combines test results across content areas.)

Chair Weis adjourned the meeting at approximately 3:00 p.m. and announced that the next meeting would be held from 9 a.m. until 3 p.m. on January 7, 2003.

The meeting will be held in room 1101 at 1430 N Street, Sacramento, CA.

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