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CNAC Meeting Minutes for October 29, 2012


Child Nutrition Advisory Council

An Advisory Body to the State Board Of Education
Meeting Minutes

October 29, 2012
10 a.m.–3:15 p.m.

California Department of Education
1430 N Street, Room 1801
Sacramento, CA 95814

Members Present

Carol Chase, Caroline Danielson, Lawrence Herrera, Clell Hoffman, Lucy McProud, Soo Zee Park, Marni Posey, Barbara Rohrer, and Trish Vance

State Board of Education Liaison


Representative for the State Board of Education

Beth Rice

Member(s) Absent

Nori Grossmann and Colleen You

Also Present—California Department of Education Staff Members:

Mike Danzik, Martie Hague, Grace Huppert, Sandip Kaur, Kelley Knapp, Stephanie Papas, and Heather Reed

California Food Policy Advocates

Ellen Guajardo


Call to order

Larry Herrera, Chair, called the meeting to order at 10:15 a.m.

The Pledge of Allegiance was given.

Approval of Agenda

Lucy McProud moved to approve the agenda for October 29, and Barbara Rohrer seconded the motion. The Child Nutrition Advisory Council (CNAC) voted to approve the agenda.

Approval of Minutes

Clell Hoffman moved that the minutes be accepted. Nori Grossmann seconded the motion. The CNAC voted to approve the minutes of the June 19 meeting.

Public Comment

There was no public comment.

Item 1
Next Steps: Letter regarding integration of Nutrition Education into the Common Core Standards  

After the September 10 meeting, a letter was sent to the Tom Torlakson, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, Dr. Michael Kirst, the President of the State Board of Education, Ed D’Souza, Chairperson of the Mathematics Subject Matter Committee, Bill Honig, Chairperson of the Instructional Quality Commission, and Sue Stickel, Chairperson of the Mathematics Curriculum Framework & Evaluation Criteria Commission. The letter encouraged the inclusion of nutrition education content into the math and language arts common core and frameworks.

Mr. Honig responded to Heather Reed, Nutrition Education Consultant, and suggested a meeting to discuss specific ideas for integrating Nutrition Education into the Mathematics Common Core Standards. Heather will schedule a meeting with him to include staff from other California Department of Education (CDE) divisions. The CNAC discussed some possible topics for inclusion. Among them were:

  • Laying out a garden using geometry
  • Relating calories eaten to calories used in physical activity
  • Doubling a recipe
  • Volumes of nutrients in foods
  • Comparative nutrient analysis
Item 2
Increasing Access to Water in Childcare and School Environments

From the Nutrition Services Division (NSD) Mike Danzik, (NEC) and Kelley Knapp, NEC, along with Stephanie Papas, Education Program Consultant for the Team California for Healthy Kids initiative, and from the California Food Policy Advocates (CFPA), Ellen Guajardo, Senior Nutrition Policy Advocate, presented information regarding the state and federal requirements to provide clean, available water in school and childcare settings.

Three pieces of legislation relate to water accessibility:

  • The federal Healthy Hunger Free Kids Act (HHFKA) of 2010 requires sponsors of the National School Lunch Program and Child and Adult Care Food Program ensure that water is available to children during meal times.
  • Senate Bill 1413, requires school districts to provide access to free, fresh drinking water during meal times in school food service areas. The bill was signed by Governor Brown and filed with the Secretary of State on February 10, 2012, Chapter 3.
  • Assembly Bill 685 declares that every human being has the right to safe, clean, affordable, and accessible water, adequate for human consumption, cooking, and sanitary purposes. The bill was signed by Governor Brown and filed with the Secretary of State on September 25, 2012, Chapter 524.

A 2009 survey found that at least 40 percent of schools in responding districts reported no access to free drinking water for students during meals. Anecdotal evidence from students, parents, and community advocates demonstrates that many schools have inoperable, poorly maintained, or unhygienic water fountains. Moreover, the current water fountain requirements for schools are known to be inadequate.

Principals cited work overload and lack of knowledge of resources as reasons for their non-compliance with the law. Also, not all principals know if their water is safe and how to have water tested. District facilities managers and the Facilities Division of CDE need to be involved in the resolution of this issue.

The CFPA, the University of California at San Francisco and the CDE partnered to conduct a survey of school principals regarding their compliance with SB 1413 and HHFKA and the barriers they are experiencing for compliance. The survey is in process.

The School Accountability Report Card (SARC) is the annual mandatory reporting of public schools to provide information about themselves to the community, allowing the public to evaluate and compare schools for student achievement, environment, resources and demographics. The CNAC agreed that this would be an effective means of recording and encouraging compliance to water availability. Barbara Rohrer moved and Marni Posey seconded that Soo Zee Park, Larry Herrera, and Mike Danzik write a recommendation that water availability be part of the SARC report. The CNAC voted for this recommendation. Mike will investigate the SARC as a viable means to report on this topic and communicate his findings to Larry and Soo.

Assembly Bill 2084 requires that water be available to children at their request in childcare settings. The water is not reimbursable and cannot be a substitute for milk. This requirement applies to all licensed daycare facilities (centers and homes) in California. The KidsHealth from Nemours Healthy Drinks for Kids External link opens in new window or tab. Web page has more information. The NSD partnered with the California Department of Social Services Community Care Licensing Division to distribute healthy beverage material developed by the Network for a Healthy California to licensed childcare providers.

The CNAC adjourned for lunch.

Item 3
Implementation Status of the New Meal Pattern Requirements

Grace Huppert, NEC, reported on the status of training and communications supporting implementation of the New Meal Pattern (NMP), especially as related to the six cent reimbursement. CDE’s goal is that all sponsors be certified to qualify for the six cent reimbursement. The following are training and technical assistance opportunities that the NSD has provided to date:

  • Make It Right: Lunch Menu Planning Workshops – Began offering in April
    • Workshops: 97 Individuals: 1,257
    • Sponsors: 746
  • Menu Certification Trainings – Began offering in August; these describe the certification process and completion of the USDA Menu Worksheets with hands-on activity
    • Workshops: 55 (95 by December)
    • Individuals: 660
    • Sponsors: 514
  • November–December 2012
    • Continue Menu Certification Trainings
    • Technical Assistance
      • One-on-One Sessions Following Trainings
      • HHFKA E-mail and Phone Support—Child Nutrition Assistants (CNAs) assigned weekly
      • Electronic technical assistance with LiveMeeting—CNAs can share documents and provide assistance in completing the USDA Menu Worksheets

In addition to trainings and technical assistance, NSD provides a variety of communications to keep school food authorities (SFA) up-to-date on the certification and validation process, such as:

  • New MeAl Pattern Priorities (NewMAPP) ListServ E-mails
    • Informational
    • Training Dates/Locations
  • Management Bulletins
  • Letter from State Superintendent of Public Instruction (SSPI) Torlakson

The NSD is also addressing some SFA-specific issues.

  • Residential Child Care Institutions (RCCIs) such as juvenile halls house children of various ages, where a student’s age may not reflect his/her grade (e.g. a 16 year old in the 5th grade). The NMP regulations require serving the meal pattern based upon grade level, which could create safety issues for RCCI residents and staff, as well as be in conflict with state nutrition requirements. The USDA has provided states with flexibility to waive age/grade group requirements for RCCIs meeting specific criteria. Other issues include underweight residents, pregnant teens, and work crews with high physical activity demands. The NSD has scheduled three RCCI-focused trainings for November.
  • The NSD is working with the Small School Districts Association to provide assistance in completing certification requirements. These districts deal with limited staffing wearing many hats, limited technology availability, communication not filtering down to appropriate staff, and lack of awareness of the need to certify.
  • New agency applications—SFAs must meet the NMP requirements upon entry, so menus are being reviewed as part of their application process.
  • SFAs using vendors or food service management companies—some confusion as to who submits certification materials. The NSD will be providing a Listserv to clarify.

During 2011-12, California schools served about 580 million lunches providing approximately $35 million to the protected cafeteria funds. The ultimate goal is that all California SFAs are certified. To meet this goal, the NSD is using a variety of communication channels to reach SFAs and ensure all are aware of the NMP requirements and the need to certify.

  • Regional Child Nutrition Consultants—reaching out to their sponsors
  • Phone Calls—CNAs contacting sponsors that have not attended trainings
  • Identifying Geographic “Gaps”—focusing contacts and target trainings in these areas
  • Letter from the State Superintendent of Public Instruction—seeking support from all levels within an SFA
  • California School Boards Association (CSBA)—seeking support from all levels
    • Policy News
    • Internal Communications
  • Small School Districts’ Association—ensuring communication; provide assistance
  • California School Nutrition Association (CSNA) Annual Conference and Chapter Meetings

Future activities:

  • New Meal Pattern Outreach Kit
    • Contract between CDE, NSD, and San Jose State University California Professional Nutrition Education and Training (Cal-Pro-NET) Center
    • Goal: improve the image of school meals and increase participation
    • Supports recommendation from the Training and Education Needs Assessment
    • Convening Advisory Committee with broad representation
      • small, medium and large school districts
      • California School Nutrition Association
      • TENA Advisory Committee
      • California Food Policy Advocates
      • The California Endowment
      • California School Boards Association
      • Staff from the NSD
    • The purpose of this group is to develop templates and fact sheets for various stakeholders which can be tailored to various media (print, radio, social media) and various audiences (students, parent, school board, community, staff, teachers)
  • FRESH Meals Culinary Centers—2013-2015
    • CDE Initiative to provide schools with recipes through the FRESH Meals Web site
      • NMP components noted
      • Nutrient analysis
      • Cycle menus
      • Production worksheets
    • Standardized and field-tested recipes with students at schools within the participating Culinary Centers over the next 3 years
    • Focus on using USDA Foods and local food products, especially produce, and minimal ingredients and equipment requirements
    • Include salad bar recipes and templates and some plant-based recipes
    • Feature best practices from large and small districts, and urban and rural
  • 2013–14 Breakfast Requirements
    • Make It Right: Breakfast Menu Planning Workshops
    • Successful Menu Planning—UC Davis Cal-Pro-NET Center

Noted during the CNAC meeting:

  1. Some schools using scratch cooking are having difficulties with certification.
  2. Some children have complained about smaller portion sizes. A good follow-up is to ask them if they eat all the food that has been offered.
  3. Marketing and best practices for the NMP are necessary to improve student acceptance of the new foods.
  4. The NSD invited CNAC member to join the Outreach Kit Advisory ; the CNAC declined to participate.
Item 4
Legislative Update

Martie Hague, Staff Services Analyst, provided an update on legislation.

  • Assembly Bill 2555, Change of the required dates for summer school meal waivers
    CDE submitted this bill, and Governor Brown signed it.
    Filed with the Secretary of State on September 19, 2012, Chapter 391
  • Assembly Bill 1616, Food Safety, Cottage Food Operations
    CDE did not make a recommendation on the bill, but there are implications for the sale of items in schools that are prepared by a cottage food operation; however, nothing requires the schools to purchase from a cottage food operation.
    Governor Brown signed the bill.
    Filed with the Secretary of State on September 21, 2012, Chapter 415
  • Assembly Bill 2367, School Gardens
    CDE opposed the bill; Governor Brown signed it.
    Filed with the Secretary of State on September 21, 2012, Chapter 428.
  • Assembly Bill 1872, Family Day Care Home Nutrition Standards
    Vetoed by Governor Brown, September 27, 2012
  • Assembly Bill 1594, Mandatory Meals at Charter Schools
    The CDE supported this bill; Governor Brown vetoed it on September 29, 2012.
  • Assembly Bill 1640, CalWorks and CALFresh benefits for Pregnant Mothers
    The CDE recommended a “watch” on the bill pending changes.
    Governor Brown signed the bill; it was filed with the Secretary of State on September 29, 2012, Chapter 778.
Item 5
Setting Guidelines for Meal Time Management

Sandip Kaur, NSD Director, introduced a discussion on managing the lunch time. Our goal would be that the NSD provide guidelines to schools so the students can have adequate time to eat without increasing costs.  Problems include:

  • Longer lunch periods may result in longer teacher-days, which will create a union issue.
  • As students recognize improved food quality, more will participate, making the lines longer and shortening the eating time for some students. We do not have definitive data regarding lunch time practices.

It was suggested that a survey of information would be helpful to proceed in making recommendations.

Barbara Rohrer moved, Lucy McProud seconded the motion, and the CNAC voted to recommend that adequate eating time should be a criterion for the Distinguished Schools award. The School Nutrition…by Design recommends 20 minutes.

Item 6
Agenda for the December 17 meeting

The following were suggested as agenda items:

  • Update on Water Accessibility
  • Water accessibility as a criterion for the School Accountability Report Card and Distinguished Schools Award
  • Update on Integration of Nutrition Education
  • Revisit Lunchtime Management
  • Allowable Use of Cafeteria Funds

The CNAC voted to adjourn at 3:15 p.m.

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Last Reviewed: Monday, April 10, 2017
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